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 Strawbs Posted: 2008/05/18 21:23 #259018
Dodd - disgrace
It cost us the game.
It should not be tollerated at the FFC. If I was Harves, I would have made a bee line for him after the game and reduced him to tears. He continually puts himself in front of the team and his undisciplined acts are a disgrace. Regardless of everything else he brings to the team, he should not be given a jumper until he eradicates that selfish aspect of his game.
 
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 jezzaargh Posted: 2008/05/18 21:26 #259020
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I'd be having him in the side well ahead of Mi Johnson, based on the effort I saw today. Surely he needs a stint in the WAFL to find out if he is prepared to fire up and show some committment
 
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 guy smiley Posted: 2008/05/18 21:27 #259022
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OK... using your logic, Geischen should be tearing strips off that umpire who allowed some undisciplined hack in blue, red and white to chop Sandi's arms in a marking contest, steal the ball and deliver it to some other bloke in the same colours for an easy shot on goal.

Cost us the game.
 
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 shane Posted: 2008/05/18 22:22 #259053
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I'm torn about this. Was the free kick softer, the suspension for tripping or the suspension for stepping on someone's foot?

...or is Strawbs softer than the lot?
 
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 guy smiley Posted: 2008/05/18 22:25 #259056
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soft pretends to be hard.

Strawbs, the tribe has spoken... unless that name Strawbs refers to your shade of blonde...
 
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 DrJon Posted: 2008/05/19 05:25 #259074
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Even ignoring previous history, what Dodd did yesterday in the 3rd quarter was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on a football field. We had all the momentum and were about to launch the ball deep into the forward after a 50 metre penalty.

Not suggesting it cost us the game but considering what we are going through at the moment it was unforgivably stupid.
 
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 Rhino66 Posted: 2008/05/19 07:15 #259078
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And Heath Black giving away the 50m should yet again get off scott free...please

The treatment of Sandi in marking contests is a disgrace
 
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 demo1 Posted: 2008/05/19 08:28 #259083
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Both frees were very soft but there is always a constant when we give a stupid 50m or turnover a free kick when we have a run on - That is S Dodd and H Black. They are both repeat offenders. This must be stamped out of their game immediately otherwise it will cost us a final down the track.
 
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 Chris25 Posted: 2008/05/19 09:14 #259092
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Well if Dodd should get dropped for being undisciplined, then so should Black. Oh and neither Carr brother should get another game, and we better leave Farmer and Tarrant out, they can do some pretty dumb things. I guess Headland shouldn't come back in either, and Mark Johnson will get to stay in the WAFL too then. I thought Crowley had been in good form, but he better get dropped too.

Dropping somebody based on essentially their personalities isn't going to help. These guys are all aggressive players, and they should be left to play like that. I would much prefer seeing a free kick given away, then a team of soft players who afraid to go near anybody.
 
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 rocky333 Posted: 2008/05/19 09:15 #259093
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isnt josh due back this week ,might have 3 offenders that the maggots watch all day
 
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 Stevedore Posted: 2008/05/19 09:27 #259096
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That may well have been a 12-point moment of idiocy from Dodd. I saw it clearly - just as clearly as the ump did. I was livid.

We were on fire, the 50-metre took the ball out to the centre, our guys were ready to pounce. Instead, Dodd reverses the 50 and gives the Doggies a very gettable kick. Which they duly got.

If we'd been defending a 5-goal lead instead of 3, it would have turned out very differently.

The odd skill error we can forgive and mop up, but the competition is too tight and our position too precarious to hand out freebies like that.

I hope he got a right stiff talking to.
 
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 Richo Posted: 2008/05/19 09:56 #259102
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Clearly the umpire was sucked in by a bit of acting. That was the disgrace
 
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 embee Posted: 2008/05/19 10:20 #259105
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He wouldn't have been able to act if Dodd hadn't gone near him ...You can forgive overcommitment to the ball or the tackle causing a free kick or a 50 metre penalty ...but the first leasson for Freo recruits should be that purple gives the umpires a chance to prove what "bad people" they are...
 
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 The Jester Posted: 2008/05/19 10:20 #259106
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Thankyou Richo - that was the way I saw it, and I am in no way sending a lynch mob in Doddy's direction.

May I point out that Lindsay Gilbee had a fairly ordinary game by his standards, and that his falling over was acting of the highest calibre - especially in comparison to what I saw Brian Lake doing in our goal square on a number of occasions yesterday.

It was a momentum killer, no question, and silly only because he got caught. That is Steven Dodd - he actually seems to play better when he's niggling the opposition and proudly flying the flag, and if he's been told to stop it's definitely having a detrimental impact on his performance.

And 90% of the time he knows full well where the line is - unlike Heath Black, who attracts frees against and 50s by the handful.

I'd much rather see him play that way, even if he is unluckily penalised, than attempt to sanitise his game and not play to the same standard.
 
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 mangoraven Posted: 2008/05/19 10:25 #259107
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No, Jester and Richo, Embee's right.

Dodd had won the ball and should have gone straight to taking his kick then gone back to niggling his opponent. Not the other way around. It was stupid, undisciplined and cost us a goal. Not necessarily the match at that stage, though. You could point to any number of mistakes the team made in the last quarter. Or Tarrant's miss at the end of the third.

The umps will always look for an excuse to reverse a call. Why give them one?
 
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 SimonBlog Posted: 2008/05/19 10:34 #259108
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I'm with mangoraven and others, it was a stupid and undisciplined act. I agree that Dodd is at his best when getting under the skin of the opposition but there is a time and a place. That time and place is after you've taken your free kick and the play has moved on.
I don't think any one incident cost us the game but I'm very surprised/disappointed that Harvey didn't immediately drag him to give him a spray over the phone.
 
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 Bizkit Posted: 2008/05/19 12:21 #259153
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Give One Melee a spray? For what? For bumping a player? Since when has that been outlawed?

What I want to know is why the free kick was not taken from the centre square after the 50m was applied. You can't award a 50m then after that decide not to do so.

One Melee was within has rights to bump Gilbee and abuse him for giving a 50m away. It was the maggots fault for deciding to make up his own rules and award the Dogs a goal. They kicked a few for the Dogs yesterday.
 
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 Greg Posted: 2008/05/19 13:11 #259172
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Spot on Mr Bizkit.

That bumping happens all over the ground while waiting for the umpire to bounce the ball in the middle. Having a go at Dodd for that is poor form. He is fighting above his weight division without Grover alongside and he's doing an admirable job. The bloke is trying to fly the flag for his team and because it was a Dodd and not a Pavlich, Brad Johnson or Akermanis is the reason he was pinged.

I feel sorry for him because having to deal with the massive differentiating levels of rule interpretations within even a half of football has to be extremely difficult.

Dodd didn’t lose the game for us. We were beaten by a classy unbeaten side by half a kick. Three goals in today's football is nowhere near a match winning lead at any stage and good teams like the Bulldogs proved that. The fact the Bulldogs were allowed to literally play outside the lines didn't help our cause.

If we play that football week in week out then we'll win a lot more than we lose and blaming Dodd for that loss is a disgraceful and low accusation.
 
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 embee Posted: 2008/05/19 13:23 #259174
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Bizkit

Free kick is given at the place of infringement or where the ball is if that is closer to goal
 
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 Stevedore Posted: 2008/05/19 13:39 #259182
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OK Greg & Biz - you're probably right - it was a non-injury-threatening bump. Just a touch too heavy - was a whole lot more than a niggling jostle - and the timing was wrong. Take the kick, get the goal, and then you have more niggle material.

If you don't want a speeding ticket, don't speed. Simple.
 
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