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TOPIC: v Footsdogs

jezzaargh v Footsdogs 2 weeks 1 day ago #29

jezzaargh
surely players should be given some leeway to swap who's on the mark, especially when it could mean an outsized contest is being kicked to...

just seems to be a highly technical, strict application to instances where there's not even a slight risk of a disadvantage to the team/player who's just marked the ball
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Gumnut v Footsdogs 2 weeks 1 day ago #30

Gumnut
But judging how inconsistently this is paid it's obvious that most umpires don't understand the rule either. Yet you can dump a player on the ground smack them in the head or shove them in the back and no penalty. Amazing
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Noddy v Footsdogs 2 weeks 1 day ago #31

Noddy
Umpiring of the game is at an all time low, with even the normally compliant media questioning game day inconsistencies and over umpiring. It’s a joke and it follows that the people running it are too.
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kidmaple v Footsdogs 2 weeks 1 day ago #32

kidmaple
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Our 50 was for changing the man on the mark, which is not allowed. Aside: I don't think the original player in the contest ever stood the mark in the first place. Not sure why the ump gets to choose who stands the mark when there is more than one player in the area.

Edit: I stand corrected Morgan. Didn't remember Walker going to the mark.
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rogerrocks v Footsdogs 2 weeks 21 hours ago #33

rogerrocks
Fyfe was amazing, with great support. I watched the Eagles vs Gold Coast and was really impressed at the Yeo - Rowell duel. Every team needs one midfielder who is just ferocious when going for the ball, and what worries me is that we have only one. We need a back-up Fyfe.
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fradonjan v Footsdogs 2 weeks 17 hours ago #34

fradonjan
Does it really matter who stands and where, a lot of players on the mark run backwards away from the mark so a lot don't actually stand on the spot as the ump says they immediately move away from the original mark seems to be ok,but don't go sideways,.And for Banners last shot at goal the sealer he ran around to his left of the player on the mark so gained more angle and space for a lefty.
Walker had definitely stood still on the mark.Dont recall ever seeing another player taking over the mark.
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Raglan Matt v Footsdogs 2 weeks 16 hours ago #35

Raglan Matt
Treacy was probably closer than Walker, he hesitated and then probably got called to go downfield by Walker who ran to the mark. Treacy never actually stood the mark, so it may have been a parochial call by umpire Unconciously Biased.
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freo00 v Footsdogs 2 weeks 16 hours ago #36

freo00
Walker was on the mark , Darcy went to the mark then told Walker to go .
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Morgan v Footsdogs 2 weeks 16 hours ago #37

Morgan
Frad, the stand rule was brought in because the league felt that the way players were aggressively manning the mark, it wasn’t enough of a reward for the team that took the mark or won the free kick. It was also hard for the umps to officiate whether something should be 50m when players were manning up diagonally on the arc (ie cutting off the middle). There were too many angles involved.

Clubs like Collingwood started stretching the stand rule by sending players up to the ‘stand’ point, then backing off. Basically it meant they could pressure the player who took the mark to go back behind their mark, but then run backwards where they could move and defend other players again. Having players be able to swap who is on the mark would do exactly the same thing.

The AFL has made the rule clear, you either come up to the mark and stand, or you get out of the protected zone. If you change your mind halfway it’s a 50m penalty.

Walker went to stand the mark, then Freo decided someone else should stand the mark. It was a clear penalty. It might not have been all Walker's fault - Treacy could have called him away - but it was his action that caused the 50.

But as to the rule, go back and watch the game – or any game – and see how many quick play-ons and short handballs are given through the middle because the defending player is a statue. It’s really opened up that sort of play, and there’s much fewer instances where defending players are cribbing over the mark and the ump has to decide if it’s too much.

It’s a good rule.
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fradonjan v Footsdogs 2 weeks 15 hours ago #38

fradonjan
Morgan i'm happy with the rule.it allowed Banners to swing around onto his left straighten up and kick,the player on the mark had no chance,I think it also helps to get rid off a lot of congestion hence more flow of the ball.
If Walker had started to move backwards then Darcy probably would not have run in ,but it seems like both did not remember the rule ,or in the heat of the moment forgot,if that was the case then it's just dumb cost us a goal .
More often than not the player on the mark backs off thus never gets the STAND from the ump.,you are left with the choice stand or back off a lot also just run away.What Banners did would not have been easy for a right footer.
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jezzaargh v Footsdogs 2 weeks 11 hours ago #39

jezzaargh
I don't mind the "stand" rule. I do think it is absurd that the umpire can dictate who must stand and then the players have no say in it.

And I find the protected zone to be incomprehensibly inconsistent in its size and shape
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Gumnut v Footsdogs 2 weeks 8 hours ago #40

Gumnut
I don't mind the stand rule, it's just how inconsistent umpires are in applying it. during a match
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Nodgey v Footsdogs 1 week 6 days ago #41

Nodgey
What annoys me is when the defender is making their way up to the mark, but then the ump yells "stand" before they've even got there. So they're forced to stand the mark on a place other than where the mark took place. But yeah, I agree it's a good rule - thought he umps could do better with calling play on when the kicker is off their line.
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Corporal Agarn v Footsdogs 1 week 6 days ago #42

Corporal Agarn
It's very common to see the kicker run ten metres or more before the umpire calls play on.
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